1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:15,000 A weekly report on what's up in Aerospace. 2 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:20,680 From the launching pad to the landing strip, Texas Countdown brings you a clear, concise 3 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,360 summary of the fast-changing world of Aerospace. 4 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,880 This program is brought to you by the leading aerospace industries in the Dallas, Fort Worth 5 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:39,480 area including Ling Timcoe, Chance Bot, Texas Instruments, American Airlines, Collins Radio, 6 00:00:39,480 --> 00:00:41,480 and the Alpha Corporation. 7 00:00:41,480 --> 00:00:46,840 Now, here is Aerospace reporter John Davenport. 8 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:47,840 Good afternoon. 9 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:48,840 This is Aerospace. 10 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:54,840 Perhaps the biggest news in Aerospace this week is the long-dumb financial pay. 11 00:00:54,840 --> 00:01:01,920 Senator William Blakely sold his 34% interest in Brown-A-Fairways Friday to four top executives 12 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:02,920 of Texas Instruments. 13 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,920 The deal amounted to about $13.5 million. 14 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:12,600 The buyers were J. Eric Johnson, T.I. Board Chairman, Eugene McDermott, Cecil Green, and 15 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:13,600 P.E. Haggerty. 16 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:18,200 They stressed, however, that the buyer was in the nature of personal investments and 17 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:23,080 that the purchase had no connection with Texas Instruments. 18 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,480 In Space News, the mastermind of the Soviet space program resigned this week. 19 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:33,440 He is Alexander Nismayanov, who, as speculated, was relieved of his job because of a new Kremlin 20 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:38,320 program to speed up the conversion of research results into practical application. 21 00:01:38,320 --> 00:01:43,000 Meanwhile, it was announced at the same time that several of Russia's top airports and 22 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,360 military men died in a so-called aviation catastrophe. 23 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,800 No details were given. 24 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,480 And one of our top space scientists arrived here in Dallas this week. 25 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,960 We reported the event to Southwest Central News earlier. 26 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,960 Southwest Central News. 27 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:05,160 Dr. Hubertus Trujold, Professor of Space Medicine at the Aerospace Medical Center at Brooks 28 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:10,920 Air Force Base in San Antonio and Advisor for Research, is in Dallas to speak to the American 29 00:02:10,920 --> 00:02:11,920 Astronautical Society. 30 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:16,040 Dr. Trujold is a national authority on space medicine. 31 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:21,800 Doctor, I wonder if you could tell us if Commander Alan Shepard's flight had any valid 32 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,800 scientific value to it? 33 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,800 Yes, there is no question that it has. 34 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:33,800 It is very great value because during all these time when he was in the United States, 35 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:40,800 this flight was a true space flight or let's say cosmic flight in every respect. 36 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:45,800 I wonder if you can tell us if you believe that Yuri Gagarin, the so-called Russian 37 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:51,800 cosmonaut, if Yuri Gagarin's flight was actually true or do you think it was a hope? 38 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,800 Can you comment on that? 39 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:59,800 And I was not there, but this reason I cannot say that it took place. 40 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:04,800 But if you cannot prove the contrary, you have to accept it. 41 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,800 Do you think the publicity given our space flight, that is with Commander Shepard, was 42 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:14,800 a good thing or do you think we should have announced it after the fact? 43 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:22,800 Since it was successful, I think it was very good that it had a tremendous effect all over 44 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:23,800 the world. 45 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:29,800 Have you received any communications from Germany or Europe on that fact, for example, television 46 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,800 coverage and so forth? 47 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:38,800 Yes, I had letters and they were all very pleased that it was...it had been done. 48 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,800 It had been done and that it was successful. 49 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:46,800 And finally, Dr. Struho, can you tell us what planet do you think in the future would be 50 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,800 best populated by the human race? 51 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,800 Populated is the wrong term. 52 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:59,800 We must say to create, let's say, a base or station for scientific exploration and in 53 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:08,800 this respect, the moon, of course, is the closest celestial body, an attractive target 54 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:14,800 celestial body for space operations and the next will be Earth. 55 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,800 Like to Dr. Struho. 56 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:22,800 We've been talking with Dr. Hubertus Struho, Professor of Space Medicine at the Aerospace 57 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,800 Medical Center at Brooks Airport Space in San Antonio and advisor for research. 58 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,800 John Davenport reporting for Southwest Central News. 59 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:36,800 The National Space Agency said this week it plans to rock at a second astronaut down 60 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,800 the Atlantic Missile Range around the 20th of June. 61 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,800 And in Turin, Italy, two Italian amateur ham radio operators this week picked up something 62 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,800 in space that they said sounded like two men and a woman. 63 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,800 They didn't say who was doing most of the talking. 64 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:58,800 President Kennedy told representatives of missile-based labor unions and contractors Tuesday 65 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,800 that the nation's security is tied to their efforts. 66 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,800 In effect, he told them to get on the ball and cut out the strikes that cripple this 67 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,800 country's missile and space efforts. 68 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,800 In the same connection, a report circulated by the Commerce Department indicated that 69 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:18,800 Russia may enjoy a bigger space power lead over us than we thought. 70 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:23,800 It suggests that the Soviets already have a rocket more powerful than our giant Saturn 71 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,800 rocket still on the drawing board. 72 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,800 The Saturn is expected to be ready in 1964. 73 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,800 Meantime, this announcement from Washington this week, the administration is planning a 74 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:40,800 major change in the national space program by giving the Air Force responsibility for 75 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:46,800 developing a new family of huge launching rockets using solid fuel. 76 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,800 Here on Dallas Friday, the Secretary of the Air Force paid us a visit. 77 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,800 Southwest Central News. Secretary of the Air Force Eugene Zuckert spoke Friday noon 78 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,800 before an armed forces day luncheon at the Sheridan Dallas Hotel. 79 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:04,800 Later at a press conference, we asked Secretary Zuckert this question. 80 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,800 Mr. Secretary, you said in your speech today that the purpose of armament is to 81 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,800 maintain the peace relevant to wage war. 82 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,800 And yet the goal for all Western nations is eventual disarmament. 83 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,800 Is there any problem in reconciling these two viewpoints? 84 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,800 I don't see any problem. 85 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:25,800 I think that disarmament, especially in view of the terrible nature of the weapons that we have developed 86 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,800 is a rational and desirable objective. 87 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:37,800 But so long as arms do exist, it's important that we have the arms to protect ourselves 88 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,800 and to deter. 89 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:44,800 At this point Mr. Zuckert, the Air Force is pinning its national defense hopes on the 90 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:49,800 Minuteman missile for one thing. What's the status of this missile at this time? 91 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:56,800 The Minuteman missile is in development and we are satisfied with its progress. 92 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,800 It's on schedule. We think it's going to be a very fine weapon system. 93 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:06,800 A setback such as today when the test did not go successfully is what you have to expect 94 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,800 from the development of a new weapon system. 95 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:14,800 In the last few months we of course had a change in the administration in Washington. 96 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,800 Do you anticipate any further changes in policies of national defense? 97 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,800 I couldn't give you a specific answer. 98 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:31,800 I think that the changes in policy were indicated in my speech today to give a greater emphasis 99 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:38,800 on the fight-limited war, to provide greater mobility to our forces. 100 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:48,800 I think a broader spectrum of ability to deter and to fight limited war has been a keynote 101 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:56,800 of this administration's policy. I think you will see this foundation built upon in the budgets to come. 102 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:01,800 I'm here to make a comment as to the relative strengths of the United States Air Force 103 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,800 as compared to the Air Force of the Soviet Union. 104 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:14,800 No, because I would be guessing. What I would say though is that the United States Air Force, 105 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:23,800 particularly our Strategic Air Command, is a tremendously powerful instrument fully capable 106 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:28,800 of carrying out its job of deterring attack upon the United States. 107 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:35,800 Air Force Secretary Eugene Zuckert in Dallas Friday, Walter Evans, Southwest Central News. 108 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:42,800 In other news, pilots and crews of the Air Force and of the Temco Aerosystems divisions of the Ling Temco electronics company 109 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,800 were presented recently with two separate flying safety awards. 110 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:55,800 The Air Force Logistics Command Flying Safety Award and the Dallas Air procurement district's Flying Safety Award were the two honors given. 111 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:02,800 Since the AFLC Flying Safety Award is reserved for the military personnel, the Dallas Air procurement district's award 112 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:09,800 was presented by the Air Force to recognize Temco's safety record at the company's Greenville facility. 113 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:17,800 Brownup revealed this week that it was going to install a million dollar jet simulator at its operations and maintenance base at Love Field. 114 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:24,800 It will duplicate flight conditions for pilots and trainees and is slated to be installed in August. 115 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,800 American Airlines said this week it will expand its Dallas jet service June the 11th. 116 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,800 According to Bradford S. Gibson, Americans District Sales Manager, the new plans include 117 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:40,800 inauguration of the 1st Dallas Tennessee service, the beginning of Dallas Hill Passel jet service, 118 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:46,800 the 1st Dallas San Diego jet service, the start of a daily Dallas Boston jet round trip, 119 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:52,800 and the addition of a third daily jet to Chicago from Dallas. 120 00:09:52,800 --> 00:10:02,800 Our flying saucer is real. Yes, says a Dallas expert on the subject, is William Daniel of 8036 Fall River Drive. 121 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,800 This is what he had to say on the matter to us earlier. 122 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:15,800 Mr. Daniel, how long have you been studying this phenomenon known as flying saucers or unidentified flying objects since late 1948? 123 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,800 Do you have reason to believe there are such things? 124 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:28,800 I think there are too many reliable reports by people in occupations such as airline pilots, radar men, jet fighter pilots, 125 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:38,800 and technical personnel at rocket and installations of technological developments where technological developments are going on that indicate this. 126 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,800 Do you have any documents to support what you're saying? 127 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,800 I have a statement I received recently. 128 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:56,800 It's a copy of a statement that is signed by a 21 American scientist who have urged that the Air Force check 129 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:04,800 the UFOs more thoroughly and that an investigation be made of the Air Force procedure. 130 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,800 Who are some of these scientists? 131 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:13,800 One of them, Dr. Charles P. Olivier, America's professor of astronomy, University of Pennsylvania, 132 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,800 and he was the president of the American Meteor Society. 133 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:25,800 Another one is Dr. Frederick P. Cranston, physicist, loss, alamos, scientific laboratory, University of New Mexico, 134 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,800 and there are, as I say, 21 others, or 20 others. 135 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,800 Have you ever seen another identified flying object? 136 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,800 Did you know that it wasn't a weather balloon or something like that? 137 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:45,800 I have seen a group of unidentified objects which were unexplainable to me in early 1954. 138 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,800 What did they look like? 139 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:56,800 They looked like a group of small circular lights or luminescent objects in a concave formation, 140 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:03,800 and they went from south to north across the sky at night in approximately 15 seconds. 141 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,800 When you're sure they worked ducks or geese or something like that, I'm fairly certain from the standpoint 142 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,800 there was no illuminating sources which would indicate and they moved, 143 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:16,800 and they would observe too far to reflect the lights that could have possibly done so. 144 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:21,800 At that time, that night, there was no full moon, nor any moon at that point. 145 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:29,800 In a recent book by a Colonel Tacker of the Air Force, he said that flying saucers as such were something that could be explained 146 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,800 almost 99% of the time. Apparently, you don't agree with it. 147 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,800 You're not exactly know from the standpoint that they can be explained, 148 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,800 but from the standpoint that the explanation is the correct one. 149 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,800 Well, how many of these explanations do you think are valid? 150 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,800 For example, you don't think all of these objects are something from outer space for another world, are you? 151 00:12:51,800 --> 00:13:00,800 Not nearly all of them. No, there are too many people who are taking advantage of the subject by writing books of the Contexty Nature. 152 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:09,800 There are other people who write books based on their hypothesis of how the saucers are propelled, 153 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:16,800 and they use the gobbledy UFO incidents to prove their point. 154 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,800 You mentioned Contexty. What does that mean? 155 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:26,800 Someone who is alleged to have contacted an individual from another planet. 156 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:31,800 Or don't you think some of these people are just doing it for the sensationalism of the money? 157 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:38,800 A great many of them are doing it for the money and the other percentages I do not think that are doing it for money. 158 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:46,800 They are doing it because they have to have an escape and a way to get their names known to the general public. 159 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,800 It's possibly an ego complex there. 160 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:56,800 Well, if there are such things as unidentified flying objects and certain people have seen them, 161 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:02,800 why hasn't the government called for these people? Why don't they take the benefit of their experience? 162 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:10,800 Well, from the standpoint that a few years ago there was an investigation set up by a leading aircraft company 163 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:17,800 to investigate anti-gravity processes to where we might someday be able to utilize the force of gravity 164 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:25,800 to repel the Earth's gravity and to go into space, this was offered as an explanation for the saucer propulsion 165 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:35,800 as early as 1950 and as I say, the investigation by this prominent company did not start until 1955. 166 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,800 So do you think the Air Force may be covering up something here? 167 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:50,800 It seems that the times that they take up projects which are somewhat related to something that saucers are said to have done, 168 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:57,800 the non-existent saucers or said to have done, has come up quite a number of times in the last few years. 169 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,800 Thank you very much, Mr. Daniel.